Misquoting Jesus Podcast
How to Detect a Forgery: The Secret Gospel of Mark
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Episode Outline:
Can scholars actually tell whether a sensational new text is authentic or a brilliant forgery?
Bart and Megan on aging, family pressures, and the difference between teaching online and in person
Why online courses can work so well for engaged adult learners
Quick recap: what the Secret Gospel of Mark is and why it caused such a stir
How Morton Smith found the manuscript and why discoveries like this are so rare
The first authentication question: how do you test a text when you only have photographs?
Smith’s main strategy: date the handwriting, test whether it sounds like Clement, and ask whether the quoted material sounds like Mark
Course promo: Paul and Jesus: The Great Divide
Early suspicions: why some scholars doubted the text almost immediately
The central problem: without the physical manuscript, how much can paleography really prove?
Bart’s personal anecdote: Guy Stroumsa had actually seen the manuscript in 1976
Why the manuscript was never properly tested, and how it then disappeared
Why the handwriting and vocabulary evidence may not be as decisive as it first sounds
What is suspicious about the printed book the letter was copied into
Another strange coincidence: the facing page is about interpolations and forged insertions
If it is a forgery, could Morton Smith really have pulled it off?
The ugly side of the debate: ad hominem attacks and speculation about Smith’s motives
Is there any real scholarly consensus on whether the Secret Gospel is genuine?
Weekly Update: Bart previews longer semester-style online courses with lectures, Q&A, and quizzes
Outsmart Bart: the woman caught in adultery, Junia’s context in Romans 16, and 1 Corinthians 6
Final summary: the case remains unresolved, but Bart leans toward the Secret Gospel being a forgery, possibly by Morton Smith himself
Episode Description
New manuscripts discoveries in Biblical studies are often outed as forgeries, But sometimes -- rarely -- they turn out to be authentic. How do scholars distinguish between fact and fiction, especially when they only have access to photographs or copies? Is it possible for a text to pass all authenticity tests and still be a clever forgery? Today we’re back with Dr. Morton Smith and the Secret Gospel of Mark to discuss he discovered an actual ancient document with unknown information about Jesus, or turned up a forgery of some kind, or possibly even forged it himself.
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Was A Secret Gospel of Mark Discovered?
When Is a Christian Not A Christian?
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Jesus in the Writings of the First-century Jewish historian Josephus
Jesus in the Writings of the First-century Jewish historian Josephus
Megan asks Bart:
- Just to refresh our memories, what is the “secret” gospel of Mark?
- Could you remind us how it was discovered?
- How did Morton Smith go about trying to determine its authenticity?
- What did those steps to authentication entail?
- What were the original doubts of the authenticity of the letter?
- Why hasn’t the manuscript itself been analysed to see how old it is?
- While chemical analysis hasn’t been possible, Smith did have experts look at photographs of the handwriting, and he analyzed the language himself. What was the outcome of these studies?
- Is there anything suspicious about the book it was allegedly copied into?
- Scholars sometimes make personal attacks on others who take a controversial position. DId that happen in this case?
- Is there a consensus?
Can scholars actually tell whether a sensational new text is authentic or a brilliant forgery?
Bart and Megan on aging, family pressures, and the difference between teaching online and in person
Why online courses can work so well for engaged adult learners
Quick recap: what the Secret Gospel of Mark is and why it caused such a stir
How Morton Smith found the manuscript and why discoveries like this are so rare
The first authentication question: how do you test a text when you only have photographs?
Smith’s main strategy: date the handwriting, test whether it sounds like Clement, and ask whether the quoted material sounds like Mark
Course promo: Paul and Jesus: The Great Divide
Early suspicions: why some scholars doubted the text almost immediately
The central problem: without the physical manuscript, how much can paleography really prove?
Bart’s personal anecdote: Guy Stroumsa had actually seen the manuscript in 1976
Why the manuscript was never properly tested, and how it then disappeared
Why the handwriting and vocabulary evidence may not be as decisive as it first sounds
What is suspicious about the printed book the letter was copied into
Another strange coincidence: the facing page is about interpolations and forged insertions
If it is a forgery, could Morton Smith really have pulled it off?
The ugly side of the debate: ad hominem attacks and speculation about Smith’s motives
Is there any real scholarly consensus on whether the Secret Gospel is genuine?
Weekly Update: Bart previews longer semester-style online courses with lectures, Q&A, and quizzes
Outsmart Bart: the woman caught in adultery, Junia’s context in Romans 16, and 1 Corinthians 6
Final summary: the case remains unresolved, but Bart leans toward the Secret Gospel being a forgery, possibly by Morton Smith himself
Episode Description
New manuscripts discoveries in Biblical studies are often outed as forgeries, But sometimes -- rarely -- they turn out to be authentic. How do scholars distinguish between fact and fiction, especially when they only have access to photographs or copies? Is it possible for a text to pass all authenticity tests and still be a clever forgery? Today we’re back with Dr. Morton Smith and the Secret Gospel of Mark to discuss he discovered an actual ancient document with unknown information about Jesus, or turned up a forgery of some kind, or possibly even forged it himself.
Also watch these episodes:
Was A Secret Gospel of Mark Discovered?
Was A Secret Gospel of Mark Discovered?
When Is a Christian Not A Christian?
When Is a Christian Not A Christian?
Jesus in the Writings of the First-century Jewish historian Josephus
Jesus in the Writings of the First-century Jewish historian Josephus
Megan asks Bart:
- Just to refresh our memories, what is the “secret” gospel of Mark?
- Could you remind us how it was discovered?
- How did Morton Smith go about trying to determine its authenticity?
- What did those steps to authentication entail?
- What were the original doubts of the authenticity of the letter?
- Why hasn’t the manuscript itself been analysed to see how old it is?
- While chemical analysis hasn’t been possible, Smith did have experts look at photographs of the handwriting, and he analyzed the language himself. What was the outcome of these studies?
- Is there anything suspicious about the book it was allegedly copied into?
- Scholars sometimes make personal attacks on others who take a controversial position. DId that happen in this case?
- Is there a consensus?
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